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glenn.giroir
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SHOWER WITH NO BAG.

Since my surgery, I've discovered a new joy that is rivaled by few others - to stand under a shower and let warm water run where there is adhesive attached nearly 100% of the time - and will be for the rest of my life.  A place that seldom sees daylight and almost never feels fresh air or fresh anything.  

I could get lost doing this.  It's the simple things.  Here's to showers with no bags.  Cheers!

 

Ulcerative Colitis (1995)
Permanent Ileostomy (2019)
Doing what it takes to enjoy life to its fullest.


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Remember when you took that for granted?  You’re right - simple pleasures are worth so much!  

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I heartily agree! A shower without the bag is wonderful! Thats what I do too. Feels good and gives a good chance to gently get as much of the goo off as you can. 

"Simple pleasures" is right!

Onset of severe Ulcerative Colitus Oct.2012. Subtotal colectomy with illiostomy July 2015; Peristomal hernia repair ( Sugarbaker, mesh, laparoscopic) May 2017.


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I agree too!!  It is a wonderful feeling. My bag-free showers are definitely longer than usual. But getting out of the shower and drying off is a little more stressful without the bag. 😂

-Liza
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“May your day be bright and your bag be light.”


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You guys are so funny! I wouldn't dare shower without a bag on! Rose just has no manners to be silent that long. Betwedn showers,  she does enjoy a Spa day!  I fast the night before a change over, have a nice long hot bath then change pouches.  After cleaning the skin,  I allow a good amount water rinsing & air time for my  skin before applying new skin barrier & pouch. Spa Day! 

Linda


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I am with the bag free shower group. Dona is right nothing gets the stoma skin so clean. Ok I see the option about output. My thoughts/advice is when finished let the shower run for a bit if you have moved and a squirt of bleach down the plug hole. Plus changing with a shower makes the change a relaxing time and a better change. 

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@squeakyandliza

Very true!  I'm always afraid of shooting a missile across the bathroom floor, or taking my stoma off with some aggressive toweling.  😆

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@dlkfiretruck

I've showered with a very active stoma.  It is a challenge.  It also gives me insight into just how far that little bugger will shoot.  Sorry about the imagery, but most of us can probably relate to some degree.  And, I'm easily entertained.  😆    

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I claim the four word group is a sub group of the Going Commando -living a little dangerously HeHe

As Eric says fresh air helps a lot we need to breathe so IMO your little buddy that popped out after your operation needs to breathe also?

Colostomy Jan 2020


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Hi Glenn,

 

I rarely have a bag change without a shower. In the beginning I found that bags had a hard time sticking after 2 or 3 changes, and my wife encouraged me to try it after a shower in which I use soap and water in the area where the wafer needs to stick. I was so reluctant to stand there with my stoma exposed and the possibility of output without anything to catch it, but I was so miserable at the non-stick problem that I followed her suggestion and have never looked back. It helps keep the skin in better condition to wash it right after peeling off the appliance, and yes, it sure feels great to massage that area with warm, running water. These days I use the trick of not eating for at least 3 hours and then using marshmallows and waiting around thirty minutes for the output to stop before getting in the shower. Congratulations on your discovery.

Tony
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Spontaneous colon perforation and emergency end ileostomy surgery in 2018.
No colon - still rollin'!
No eyesight - life still bright!
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@glenn-giroir...A conversation here not long ago identified that my delicate little  Rose  has super powers I never dreamed of!!! lol! Liquid wall paper anyone?...sorry for that image! lol.

Chrisabdbagpus...She may need to breath but my  little sucker snores like a bulldozer coming to life on a frosty morning and no matter what I eat she insists on pretending she's got a hot air balloon for a pouch!!  If it wasn't for Gas-X & Osto EZ Vents, I would never leave the house.

Tony...I so agree that washing the area is very beneficial to healthy skin &  applying a well stuck pouch. It's amazing the ways I've figured how to do this without going commando in a bath or shower 🚿.  I need at least 12 hours without food & little fluids for my delicate little Olympian to be restful during a change over. She's proven to be a wild spirit all on her own! lol!  I found Eric's site here 8 years in & no help from anyone before hand so I did a ton of figuring things out on my own.  I have the hugest appreciation for you Eric & everyone here who openly & honestly & kindly  shares their experiences. You have all been a blessing and fun in so many ways!

THANK YOU ALL! 

Linda


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It's become trite for my wife to hear, but I say it all the time;  i LOVE showering without all that stuck to my abdomen! It's so nice to be free from it for 10 minutes, to be truly, totally naked!

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Interesting.

I rarely showered or bathed with my bag on, so I always thought having it off was "normal". The only time I would take a bath or shower with the bag on was when I'd be staying at my grandma's house and she didn't normally have any extra supplies to do a change.

 

I've read that some of the suppliers recommend keeping the bag on when you shower so you don't have output that goes everywhere, and then changing the bag afterwards. This makes sense, but then if you're showering every day, wouldn't that make your wafer not last as long, necessitating a change more often? It's interesting to hear about how others modify things and find what works for them, and then compare that to what I remember.

 

Brian

Nechrotizing Enterocolitis 7/3/1982
Ileostomy 7/29/1982
Reversed 8/1/1995


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@goatherder saw a picture on the internet that made me think of you and your wife!

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@llholiday Love it, thanks!

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Hi Brian.  I either shower or take a long bath every day with my bag on (except for the days I change, then I shower with no bag).  I have a big Jacuzzi tub, and the bag is completely submerged when I soak.  I typically go 5 days with no problems between bag changes.  It amazes me too that I can do this.  Maybe I'm lucky, or maybe I've just found the right product for me.  I use Hollister 2-piece bags.  I did try this with Convetec, and the adhesive would melt away in a single bath.  I can also take daily baths/soaks with Coloplast products.  I just don't really care for their bags, since I really like filterless bags, and Coloplast provides very few options for filterless.  So, I've settled in with my Hollister bags and have been happy ever since.  

Take care,

Glenn 

Ulcerative Colitis (1995)
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Change day routine - 

1. Eat three marshmallows

2. Wait 1/2 hour

3. Remove everything

4. Jump in the shower and stay there until the water runs cold.


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@jeff

I like that routine!!  I’ve done that a couple times-stayed in the shower until the hot water ran out. You have to stop while the water has some warmth still to it though. Otherwise it loses the nice effect. At least for me. 🙂

-Liza
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“May your day be bright and your bag be light.”


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