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Coloplast Sensura Mio High-Output ostomy bags: Overview (w/ video)

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Let's discuss the Coloplast Sensura Mio High Output appliances!

A full written article about this product can be found by clicking on the link below.

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
~ Crohn's Disease ¦ Ileostomy ~


   
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If it gives the user a comfortable nights sleep that's what its made for.

ileostomy 31st August 1994 for Crohns


   
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VeganOstomy
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For those with high-output stomas, these pouches are a God send! I've seen what happens when someone who has a very active stoma can't empty their regular pouches fast enough.

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
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(@MArie)
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I tried them in November, I’ve been hospitalized so I taught why not try it... works pretty well, Coloplast sent me light convex 1 piece. I had an MRI and for the first time I didn’t need to run to the bathroom with a bag ready to explode lol! Perfect for the night too. It’s a bit big but I really liked them until I found out the price.. I use soft convex mio (about 10$ each) and for those new bag it was almost 20$ each!!! I don’t have insurance so, too bad ;)


   
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Yes, the cost surprised me too. I don't know how the prices compare with similar products from other brands, but I will look into that as I expand on my content surrounding these products.

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
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Just had Coloplast send me samples. Can't wait. I have very high amount liquid output. Sold on Coloplast - everything I tried. Just wish they would have given me Coloplast products in the beginning, but as my visiting nurse told me, the Hospital only uses Hollister products - which gave me nightmares for 6 months - leaks. So happy I found Coloplast. Will let you know how they work after I get them. Oh, thanks for all you do for ostomates.


   
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Thank you! And yes... please let me know how it goes! Good luck!

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
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Thanks for the reviews .. These pouches are awesome, but Coloplast wafers don’t last more than a day or so for me...planning on trying the newer Coloplast Sensura Mio wafers, hope that perhaps can get better wear time from those. Without going into to much detail, with my ostomy situation I have found the absolute best wafer for me is the moldable convatec natura durahesive ( 421041) long wear time, no leaks ever...but, the pouches that match that wafer don’t hold much output..found out by accident that a hollister high output pouch ( hollister 3874) actually fits perfectly to the convatec 421041 wafer..So I get long wearing, no leak wafer with a high capacity pouch.. I do prefer the high capacity Coloplast pouches, but as mentioned, wear times with the matching wafer is low..will be trying Coloplast sensura mio click wafer..hopefully will work well, then can use the Coloplast pouches...Again, thanks for the forum and your reviews.. maybe you can pass along fact that the hollister 3874 line fits/connects perfectly to convatec 421041 flanges.


   
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I've heard of others using a similar combination! So glad to hear that works for you. I have an article on mixing and matching adhesive coupling, but not these mechanical couplings. It's more difficult to know which are compatible because there are many variations across the globe, but I am making note of which are compatible 😀

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Coloplast products give me usually 4-5 days wear time of which I am very happy and truly thankful.  I guess everybody's skin is different when it comes to the adhesive.  As mentioned before, since using Coloplast products, my skin has totally cleared and I have never had even as much of a rash or evidence of breakdown in the skin since...  Keep looking for your combination of products until you find one that you can claim your own.  Praying for you to find that.
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Got my first samples of large pouches Mio Flex 2-piece system.  First one leaked where the 2 attach to each other at the bottom area.  Fixed that by using some Super Glue around the area where the 2 attach to each other.  Never ever had a problem with them attaching firmly and staying adhered to the skin.  Now with use of Super Glue, no leaks at all - the system is unable to be separated.  This is the 4th day and so far, so good.  The larger pouch has afforded me a good night's sleep - at last.  No more jumping up every time I turn over in bed with a pouch that feels like it is going to explode at any minute.  I still put an Osto EZ Vent on - just in case their vent plugs, but so far, so good.  I am going to keep it on and see how many days I can get this.  Absolutely no skin breakdown.  NONE.  System firmly adhered to skin.  I do use the Coloplast extender C-shape strips as an added measure of security just for my own peace of mind, but that is just me.  I have found Coloplast products are absolutely a God-send - having had HUGE failures with Hollister and Convatec systems.  I went from totally discouraged and depressed to happy me.  Hope you find a solution soon.
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Hey Eric: First high-output pouch (Mio Flex) developed a leak where the lower portion of the pouch separated from the wafer. Solved that problem by using Super Glue where the pouch adheres to wafer. I also am using wafer extenders (they do give me a greater sense of assurance; however, never really had any Coloplast product come away from the skin. I like the sense of security they give. I also just received my B. Braun samples and like their coupling system. I notice they offer a high output system, too. I will be contacting them to send me samples of those and will report on them after I test them out - provided they send those to me. I am interested in wear time, ease of use, etc. Again, thanks for all your help. I am now to a point where I sometimes forget I even have a stoma to deal with. I also finally have cutting the correct size hole in the wafer down to a science (yeah). TTYL

Kathy


   
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Good luck! I also have the b braun samples and will do a video on them at some point. I have checked them out to compare with these yet. Interested in hearing how they work for you.

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
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Will get back to you soon.  Again, thanks.
Kathy GOD SAVE THE USA GOD BLESS OUR POLICE OFFICERS


   
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(@Rachel Wharton)
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I have been using these pouches for a month now (2 piece) and I have finally managed to get a full nights unbroken sleep. Usually, I am up at least twice over night emptying my large size sensura mio pouch and always felt tired on a morning but no longer!
As I live in the UK, I get all my stoma equipment free, so cost isn't a consideration for me. Base plates usually last between 24 to 72 hours for me so I can interchange the high output pouch with a large pouch for use during the day. I rarely suffer from peristomal skin issues with ths mio baseplate but I do use a 2 piece system because of previous issues with pancaking and multiple leaks at night.
I would say that if you do have to fund yourself these pouches are worth the extra cost if you are desperate for a full nights sleep!


   
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VeganOstomy
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Hi Rachel!

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I'm glad to hear that you're getting more sleep!

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
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(@Kathy MacPherson)
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Found the best high-volume pouches for me. Had a chance to try the Coloplast Assura High Output Click pouch (#8114) and had to use the wafer #2881. Through EBay, I got 5 boxes of 10 pouches per box for total of $50 (free shipping). The Wafers come in boxes of 5 and cost about $25/box. The fit is phenomenal and I finally figured out the click system. I still use the Brava tape extenders just for my own peace of mind, even though I have never had any product from Coloplast leak. Getting average of 5-days wear time, too. No skin problems at all. I also still like the fact I don't have to use all the other stuff - adhesive remover wipes/sprays, adhesive wipes/sprays, powder, etc. I received the one piece high-volume sample from Hollister. Booo. Within about 12 hours, it leaked - as per usual from my experience with Hollister products. Just reporting on my success.


   
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That's wonderful, Kathy! I'm so glad that setup has been working for you!!

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
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(@Kathy MacPherson)
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Best thing about high-output pouches is 8 hours uninterrupted sleep.


   
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The Coloplast 1-piece high volume pouch finally available in America - disappointed. The volume seemed about the same as their regular 1-piece system - required emptying often. Also, the little area where you can "hide" the spigot is hard to manipulate and I had to tear the side to slide the spigot in out of the way then use tape to keep it in place. Timing couldn't have been better, though. I received the Convatec 1-piece high volume pouch system: Esteem drainable pouch transparent 12 inch #4416908 - InvisiClose Velcro. Easy to put on and seems to be holding well to the skin. Only problem is their Velcro does not hold and I ended up using the clip to keep it closed. I had tried other Convatec products in the past without much success and lots of leaks, poor wear time, skin breakdown, etc. I am very pleased with this one. They sent 3 samples to try and I am still on the 1st one. If this system fails, I will go back to the Coloplast Click 2-piece high-output system (pouch 8114 and flange 2881). I found that by clicking the 2 pieces together before putting the appliance on - works great for me and stays in place. I have a problem getting the flat flange to "click". Also, with all my appliances, I use the Brava barrier strips - just for my own piece of mind. I also use the KEM EZ Vent on all pouches.


   
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