unless it falls off.

Ive had this happen 4 times now.

I need this size of bag otherwise I'd have changed a long time ago. i have massive output

The 2 piece 'click' version of THESE BAGS JUST FALLS OFF

Hey, @steoma, I'm sorry to hear that! Is the *bag* falling off, or is the *wafer* pulling off of your skin?

The bag should lock securely, and should NOT come detached once the lock is engaged.

I would also highly recommend using the support band that clips onto the 2-pc, which will remove some weight off the appliance itself.

Hi VeganOstomy

Thanks fso much or responding to me.

It seems THIS problem has been known about for years.

Below is some feedback I happened upon (cant remember where unfortunately) from who I presume to be a beta 'tester' of the product from before the item was 'released' on to us poor ostomates.

''The wavy plastic ring that 'click-locks' is brittle and breaks, (at ANY time without warning) resulting in the pouch falling out. This needs improvement in material and design.''

This beta feedback is from YEARS ago and this is precisely the problem I have been encountering, on numerous occasions, IN PUBLIC!
These are the ONLY bags with enough capacity for me.
I have an asurdly high output.
I obviouslly have to use the support band.
I do not want to revert to wearing a very restricting 'girdle' type support to cover and keep the bag holding 'just in case'.

I have reported this problem with the ring to charter / coloplast before but I continue to order the bags in the hope that maybe it was a 'bad batch' (which was the reason they tried to 'fob me off' with originally), OR that the problem with the product had been resolved at factory level. As it should be. I look forward to THAT.

The capacity of this bag is the ONLY reason I continue to use them but they make me quite literally HOUSEBOUND due to their unreliability.

Fortunately I am now retired so dont need to 'venture out' too much but the material used for the ALL SO IMPORTANT 'click ring' which EVERYTHING relies upon with this bag NEEDS SORTING OUT IMEADIATELY BEFORE SENDING THSES BAGS OUT. I am so suprised there aren't many more patients having this problem. Maybe they are and not reporting it, or putting it down to a bad batch as I once did.

How can they even continue to send out a bag that can not be relied upon 100% (or 99.9% at least!)

Hi steoma,

Thank you for sharing that feedback! I haven't had my hands on this bag in the last few years, so I wonder if there were any changes to the material from when I first got them.

It wouldn't be unheard of that a company switched material supplier, or made other changes to their products... sometimes these are for the better, but sometimes they have the opposite result.

In light of that, have you been able to sample any other high-capacity bags from other brands?

Or have you considered the 1pc version, so you bypass any problems with having a 2pc coupling? Granted, the 1pc of this high output Mio is a smaller capacity compared to the 2pc, but still larger than the traditional "large" size bag.

I have tried every possible 'high output' bag there are available.
None of them compare to the Mio.
I mean if it wasn't for this problem with the 'click ring' (and maybe more robust seams around the tap outlet) these would serve me well.
The material for the click ring obviously needs to have some 'give' which would solve THAT problem.
I have to laugh (or I'd cry) at the ridiculous design of ostomy bags in general.
Vast amounts of wasted room around the top flange part, narrowing down in width towards the bottom part. What ARE they thinking?!
There needs to be an actual 'ostomate' with a high output stoma in the position of designing these bags.
They dont seem to listen to the 'testers' on these high output Mio bags
Only THEN would the design be as it should be

I almost shot myself having bags fall off resulting in depressing catastrophe! I started using glue! The best I have found is Nuhope Adhesive. I ignore instructions and apply it to pouch and skin. Use. hair dryer for quick drying. I have a two piece which allows me to picture frame skin barrier plate with one piece of 6 inch wide Smith and Nephew dressing retention tape. I have have had a very hard to manage ileostomy since 1993. I have tried just about everything! My process is quite involved. A belt is nice, but the ones available are a joke!! Contact leemarvin1956@ymail.com hang in there son.