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(@zhtfreak)
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Morning all,

 

Wow, it's been forever since I've posted here. lol

 

As anyone who has read my other posts knows, I had my ileostomy reversed and it has worked out well for the most part.

 

I assume that means that the waste that now comes out in the normal way is the same as the output that would collect in my ostomy pouch; sometimes straight liquid, but more often thicker. I'm finding that when it is like that and I go to bust out the TP that I have to use a lot and can't always get it all off, so there's still some waste there that causes some odor and therefore embarrassment. This happens most often when I'm using a public restroom where they have that super thin toilet paper that doesn't do much of anything. lol

 

Does that make sense? I'm wondering if anyone with an ileostomy has dealt with something like that happening, when you empty your pouch and you use TP to clean it out, you sometimes have a little bit of output that's left there because you can't quite get it out. I think that may be why whoever was emptying for me would rinse it out every time. Kinda can't do that if you don't have the pouch anymore though. lol

 

Is there a good kind of TP that people use that's more absorbent? Anyone got any helpful ideas/tips?

 

Brian

Nechrotizing Enterocolitis 7/3/1982
Ileostomy 7/29/1982
Reversed 8/1/1995


   
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GoatHerder
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Have you thought of perhaps a small, portable, self contained bidet? I use one when I'm not at home but need to clean out my bag. At home, everyone uses the toilet mounted bidet. Really gets you clean!

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 LK
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zhtfreak....have you considered carrying a roll of dog poop bags & a  carrying case you can buy & the refillable baby wipes container?  The wipes are maybe 3 times thickness of a paper towel & they don't break. Huggies makes a good disposable cloth. These are  " non - flushable!! "

The bags & wipes can be purchased at the dollar store & the bags break down quickly in the land full.  Use, tie shut bag & toss.  They are soft, moiste & come in multiple packs to save money.

On baby sitting my 1 1/2 yr old  grand, these wipes are amazing over what was available when my kids were little ones. We use the Aloe Vera wipes, they're non alcohol wipes also so no stinging.

Because of my arthritic fingers, I lay the wipe flat on my hand & tuck it between them fir a good grip to clean her little bottom!   Start away from the messy  part & wipe towards the inside cheeks. This  keeps it contained from her squirmy little legs & feet!

These wipes have served several  purposes for me many times over when I'm not at home & need to change my pouch & clean up a leak!  Public restrooms are a real challenge but doable with sadly thin TP just like the hospitals.  I don't know about anybody else but I was taught as a child to line the tiolet ring with TP before sitting down. 

Linda


   
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VeganOstomy
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I second the suggestion about baby wipes. Just be sure not to flush them, even if they are "flushable". 

Is it also an option to have a small roll (or even folded toilet paper) with you when you think you'll be using a public restroom? I always carry a small sling bag with me (for supplies and just to act as a pocket for my daily carry) so it would be easy for me to do this. 

Relying on public restroom toilet paper to be usable is wishful thinking ??

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
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(@chrisandbagpus)
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Posted by: @veganostomy

 

Relying on public restroom toilet paper to be usable is wishful thinking ??

Totally agree, like everything else they attempt to cut cost, reduce thickness, weight, layer etc. Soon it will be postage stamp size :mrgreen: 

Facial wipes are good for the last clean wipe :thumbs up

Colostomy Jan 2020


   
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(@zhtfreak)
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@Chrisandbagpus

Right? I hate restrooms where they have those dispensers that only give you squares of TP. Those don't work for me at all.

 

@goatHerder

I didn't know small portable rolls are a thing. Is that all they are; just a really small roll, or are they something you can put another roll on when you run out?

 

@dlkfiretruck

Interesting idea about using baby wipes. I didn't know you could get them in a refillable case. The things you don't know when you don't have kids of your own. lol I would think they would be hard to fold over so you don't drop them in the toilet though.

 

I do have a whole bunch of doggie bags since I'm without a dog at the moment. Sometimes it can be tricky to find a trash can in some restrooms though. It's always kind of embarrasing when I pick up after my guide when I'm out but can't find a trash can, so have to go in somewhere to ask if they have one, and the person offers to throw it away for me. Yuck!

Nechrotizing Enterocolitis 7/3/1982
Ileostomy 7/29/1982
Reversed 8/1/1995


   
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(@varg55)
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I never go anywhere without my baby wipes!  I put a few in a small zip-lock bag and carry it in a pocket or my purse.  I've depended on these for years, long before my ostomy, as my stool was always very loose and I was never able to get myself clean with just toilet paper.  Now that I have an ileostomy, they come in even more handy as I find just cleaning the end of the pouch with toilet paper isn't very sanitary.  They are also really great in case of the old "splash back".  They have a light cleanser in them, so will get you much cleaner than toilet paper alone.  I know they aren't great for the environment and you can't flush them, but they sure do make my life easier.  I buy them in a large box with several packages, and just refill the plastic dispenser.  I also usually have a small bag with some toilet paper for those public washrooms that either don't have any, or it's really cheap, thin stuff.

 

Terry


   
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LLNorth
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I keep some flushable wipes in a ziploc bag in my purse. They can come in very handy!

Colostomy 4/30/18.
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(@kedikat)
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While I had my colectomy, about thirty years, I was expelling what an ileostomy does. At home I always rinsed with water. If not my ass would burn out. Take a dump, wipe lightly, if at all, sit on the edge of the tub and flush the butt with water using the hand held shower head. The stuff coming out is loaded with digestive juices. It digests your butt and surrounding skin. Feel the burn. My job required a lot of travel. So I often had to sit on flimsy bathroom sinks in hotels to clean properly.

You can keep a bunch of separated paper towel sheets on you. Before going into a stall, moisten some at the sink. Do your business. Wipe with TP, then wipe with the wet paper towel pieces.

Why?


   
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(@kedikat)
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Scientists discover thinnest material that exists. Tim Horton's bathroom toilet paper squares.

Why?


   
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(@winnie)
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The below are sort of guesses, since I had multiple issues going on after my ileostomy was reversed, culminating in a permanent colostomy.

I had an ileostomy reversed and for a time thereafter I was dealing with what appeared to be bile acid re-absorption problems.  Your body adds bile at the top of your small intestine to help digestion and it is supposed to be re-absorbed at the bottom of your small intestine before the 'product' passes into your colon.  

If these bile salts are not re-absorbed then they cause irritation and diarrhea instead of letting your colon do the job of absorbing water from the waste.  

I found that if I took apple pectin supplements (known to absorb bile acids) that my stool output firmed up dramatically.  Might help you.

-Jon


   
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Tigerlily
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@winnie That is very interesting! Apple pectin supplements - are they available in pill form? And where do you get them? Did you get advice on dosage, or did you just experiment? I always wondered what effect straight pectin would have on output. 

Laurie

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(@winnie)
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@tigerlily You can get it in capsules or as a straight powder.  I don't care for how it changes my output now (post colostomy) and didn't try it with the ileostomy.  But in the immediate post ileostomy time period it seemed to help with my function.

-Jon  


   
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@zhtfreak...Rise and shine!! lol! The wipes are about the size of a kleenex, tissue. Try standing with one foot an the edge of a bath rub or...? They are thicker and moist. 

Linda


   
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 LK
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@kedikat ...Before my Ileostomy I relied heavily on Penetin baby diaper rash cream. Worked like a charm on that burning " Ring of Fire ", all credit to singer Johnny Cash (ask google to play it for you),  this cream went a long way to helping me maintain a portion of my sanity! lol!!

Linda


   
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