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BigMike322
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I'm currently using Hollister Adapt 8805, but then I read thst the brava rings are comparable to the Eakin rings as far as absorption goes.  That got me thinking.  I was changing my bag every 4 days with no issues (no appliance failure).  But I was using my holister bags with the brava rings I got from the hospital during most of that time period.  My stoma nurse wrote my hollister rings inbmy discharge papers so everything is universal.  (Except the brave y pouch extenders, I love those things)

I do have a few brava rings left and I just ordered some more to put this to the test.  (Granted I have been experimenting with the size of my flange hole and small parts of my set up). 

But I want to hear people's opinions.  In your mind which ones are great and which ones are not so much.  I'd love to hear some unfiltered opinions.  What's great? What's trash? And why?

 


   
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Hi Mike, Their is definitely some choice of rings available. I use only a part of a ring for the bottom right side of my stoma and my choice is welland by clinimed. I find they are easy to put on and remove very easily and leave no residue. Eakin rings I have found take a lot more effort to remove and clean. That said a lot depends on whether it’s a colostomy or ilieo. Maybe also if you’re in a hot climate. The rings will absorb output and keep away from the skin. So diet and output will effect. Plus there is a point that it cannot take any more and will fail. Plus many cases the stoma may not even require any more than just the wafer.

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BigMike322
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I should say that I also use part of an Adapt 8805 under my regular ring.  It's cut like a  smiley face.  This is what stopped my initial leaking issues in the hospital.  Prior to that the bottom and left would leak.  Now all the failures are on the right side.  


   
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Tony H
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Hey Mike, I'm currently using the Hollister Cera Rings, and I got 4 and a half days from my last change, I also had my stoma remeasured by the Hollister nurse (my measurements were way off),

 


   
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BigMike322
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@tony-h good to know.  My goal is to get back to more than 72 hours of wear time each time.

Preferable more than 96 hours like you.  That's where I was at for quite a while after I left the hospital.  The goal from my home health care was 7 days and I did it on my first attempt.  Although I don't want to make a habit of that.  It's one thing to do it when you're not working.  



   
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Tony H
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3 to 4 days was always my normal, as soon as I felt the "itch", I changed, had a lot of leaks for about a month /6 weeks but self inflicted,

The Hollister stoma nurse was brilliant, spotted the problem straight away ie not measuring stoma correctly, 

Now skin is really good again and won't take shortcuts again 

Routine is remove wafer with convatec spray and wipe 

Clean with warm water using no perfume baby wipes

Dry thoroughly, use stoma powder if needed, 

Use convatec barrier wipe 

Apply Cera Ring 

Apply warmed wafer and pouch 

Use heat pad or hand to make sure it stick well 

  • Then enjoy life and forget for 4 days 

   
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BigMike322
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I do the hand thing.  I lay down for 5 or 10 minutes and read or catch up on my emails and texts.


   
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BigMike322
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So I just read that the Eakin cohesive rings absorb up to 4 times more than others.  Do people in this forum find thstbto be true.  Why or why not?  I did use some during my initial ostomy in 2022 but my issues were with my wafer sealing.  At that time I had a lot more success with no ring so I don't have a basis of compassion.   

Currently using an adapt ring 8805 with a convex adapt ring on top with an adapt 8806 cut into a smiley face shape on the bottom.  I have also used a regular coloplast ring instead of the 8805 and it seems pretty comparable although I do find the 8805 a little easier to mold than the coloplast. (the coloplast stretches faster so it's easier to over do it)


   
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VeganOstomy
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Posted by: @bigmike322

So I just read that the Eakin cohesive rings absorb up to 4 times more than others.

Anecdotally, I'm not sure if that's true or the ring would get HUGE under the wafer, and in reality they just seem to melt.

But they do still absorb moisture, more than something like the Coloplast Protective Ring or silicone rings.

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
~ Crohn's Disease ¦ Ileostomy ~


   
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BigMike322
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@veganostomy Thanks good to know.  I'll have to try them out.


   
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VeganOstomy
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Posted by: @bigmike322

I'll have to try them out.

Try anything you can get your hands on, even if you don't have a need to use them long-term.

It's always good to know what has worked for you, so you aren't messing around with new supplies if/when you need them. 

As many of us have seen over the years, some manufacturers discontinue product without warning and/or “reformulate” them so they aren't the same as before. 😩 

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.
~ Crohn's Disease ¦ Ileostomy ~


   
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hi Mike

I have finally figured out a good system for me which includes an Ovand ostomy ring from amazon ( $16.99 for a box of 10 ) i get 8 changes from a box as i use 1/4 each change to fill a giant scar / hole 1" below my stoma which always caused leaks.    this style ring doesnt absorb liquid ( absorbable rings did NOT work well for me.  they would fail in 36hrs or less ) 

    i use 2 coats cavilon and 1 coat skin tac and make sure each coat is completely dry before the next step.    getting 5 days with no leaks now.    

 


   
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BigMike322
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Posted by: @davidinthailand


hi Mike

I have finally figured out a good system for me which includes an Ovand ostomy ring from amazon ( $16.99 for a box of 10 ) i get 8 changes from a box as i use 1/4 each change to fill a giant scar / hole 1" below my stoma which always caused leaks.    this style ring doesnt absorb liquid ( absorbable rings did NOT work well for me.  they would fail in 36hrs or less ) 

    i use 2 coats cavilon and 1 coat skin tac and make sure each coat is completely dry before the next step.    getting 5 days with no leaks now.    

 

 

Nice.  I'll have to check that brand out. I've been getting 4-6 days most recently.   I'll be changing it before three 4 day mark this time because ai have a flight to catch and I want fresh everything for travel.  

 

 


   
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Hi 

I am happy with the Coloplast Brava protective rings. I have been using them for 1.5 years and trust them to prevent leaks.

cygo

cygo
Ileostomy


   
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