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 Rick
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I use a skin barrier wipe before applying appliances…been using adapt  wipes and hollister rings.

Always had ring removal issues with this combo (sticky remnants)

for the heck of it ordered the Coloplast slim rings and hollister skin wipes.  The hollister wipes are more moist wiping on, tried with coloplast barrier and was difficult to remove.

Is it recommend to mix products like this?

 


   
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VeganOstomy
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Posted by: @rick

I use a skin barrier wipe before applying appliances

Why particular reason? It may not be necessary.

But if you do need them, I can see how they would make removing barrier rings more difficult. Barrier rings are notoriously hard to get off (a good and bad thing!).

Try getting samples of the Coloplast PROTECTIVE RING. It looks like their Barrier Ring, but it's a different material and should be easier to work with.

When was using barrier rings, I would have to scrape it off my skin, then use an adhesive remover wipe to remove the residue... it was challenging to say the least.

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Tony H
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I think trio do a silicon based seal/ring , they are called Genii flat ostomy seals , I use the eakin seals and they do need adhesive remover to remove the remnants , must give the trio ones another try and I will report back 


   
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I use the eakin rings and a coloplast protective sheet (just a portion of each) on the part of my skin with all the divots and scar tissue. Definitely takes adhesive wipes to get all the residue off. 

I tried the trio ring. It basically disintegrated in a day, leading to a leak. When I removed the wafer, there was no sign of the trio ring. It was sort of crazy. 

-Liza
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Tony H
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Posted by: @squeakyandliza

I use the eakin rings and a coloplast protective sheet (just a portion of each) on the part of my skin with all the divots and scar tissue. Definitely takes adhesive wipes to get all the residue off. 

I tried the trio ring. It basically disintegrated in a day, leading to a leak. When I removed the wafer, there was no sign of the trio ring. It was sort of crazy. 

thats good to know , I just got two boxes of 30 to try , I did try the gen one seals by trio but these are the newer version (or newer packaging ) , the eakin seals are starting to lift a bit easier and I have have a few close calls 

 


   
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Posted by: @squeakyandliza

I tried the trio ring. It basically disintegrated in a day, leading to a leak. When I removed the wafer, there was no sign of the trio ring. It was sort of crazy. 

Woah! Unless they changed something, I'm surprised that could even happen.

The Trio rings are silicone, not hydrocolloid, so they should theoretically not breakdown.

Do you recall if those had the "Genii" label on it?

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Good Morning,

I don't mix brands, but then I like Colopast products and have not had a need to try others.

I use the barrier ring and using their adhesive remover spray and wipes I do not have an issue removing the ring/appliance.  

I use the spray first then wipe with adhesive wipes.  I always shower when I change appliances.

When applying the ring /  appliance I use the powder and the skin barrier wipes.

cygo

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Chelly
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I actually stopped using skin barrier wipes due to that reason. You will get a hard to remove build up after a while even while using adhesive remover. Although sometimes these things are needed. 
smith and nephew makes 2 really good adhesive remover wipes and one is called Remove and the other is Unisolve. They really help with getting the build up off but may be a bit harsh for some. They don’t bother me. You just have to make sure you get all the residue from the adhesive remover wipe off of your skin. 
I use the adapt cera ring and I find they come off easily but if you’re using barrier wipe they can get stuck in pretty good and hard to remove. It’s s catch 22. If you need the barrier wipe you have to deal with the sticky residue. 


   
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Tony H
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Posted by: @veganostomy

Posted by: @squeakyandliza

I tried the trio ring. It basically disintegrated in a day, leading to a leak. When I removed the wafer, there was no sign of the trio ring. It was sort of crazy. 

Woah! Unless they changed something, I'm surprised that could even happen.

The Trio rings are silicone, not hydrocolloid, so they should theoretically not breakdown.

Do you recall if those had the "Genii" label on it?

 

well I tried the trio genii rings and they are not the sturdiest , one day and it more or less disappeared , its a pity because its a great idea , they are just too thin , 

what i did for the last few changes with them is to use an eakin ring and put on of the trio rings on top of it , which gives a great seal around the stoma , the eakin seal expands as the trio seal disappears , am I over complicating things ? probably but at the moment it seems to help  ,

I also think my skin did not like them as I think they caused a reaction , it might have been the toxic output that it allowed under my base plate .

 


   
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 Rick
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I ordered the best fitting Precut barrier from holister for my stoma, it’s 1 1/8.

but if I don’t use a ring the skin slightly around stoma gets irritated, even though the precut is ALMOST perfect.

The hospital gave me generic skin barrier wipes to apply with adapt rings..always a sticky mess on removal.  But I recently discovered by switching to adapt wipes with adapt rings, the rings come off easily!

all barrier wipes are not created equal, I wish hospital had given me this combo initially, without going through years of ring remnants on changing appliances.


   
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@tony-h 

that is crazy that your ring disappeared too. I was wondering if it was just me. Where do they go?!?!?!  ?

-Liza
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Tony H
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well my little experiment didn't work , had a blow out early this morning , going back to no seal and cutting the baseplate as close as I can . 


   
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Kirsten
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That's no fun, @Tony h. It seemed like a good idea. I suppose if the trio ring disintegrated, it didn't just disappear, so it didn't let the other ring adhere to the skin. 


   
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Posted by: @tony-h

well I tried the trio genii rings and they are not the sturdiest , one day and it more or less disappeared , its a pity because its a great idea , they are just too thin , 

That's a real shame!

Any experience with the Coloplast Protective Rings?

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granddayout
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After my surgery in May my Ostomy nurse started me out with Coloplast/Brava products and I've been pleased with them ever since. I guess I'm blessed that my skin and the products are compatible. I use the Coloplast CT6706 pouch [I have a colostomy], the Brava Protective Seal Thin CT12035 and the Brava Barrier Strips curved elastic CT120700. Early on, last June, I did try an adhesive remover two different times and had leakage/blowouts both times. I don't use adhesive remover anymore, I just use a damp washcloth to clean and remove any adhesive residue. For me this does the job. I have other issues related to my colostomy but am grateful that my product system works well.

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(@davidinthailand)
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i use a mix of products with zero issues.   i tried the hydrocolliod rings and they were a disaster for me.    leaks in less than 36hrs and a nightmare to remove.      i now use a Ovand 2mm silicon ring on top of 2 coats cavilon skin barrier and 1 coat skin tac.   no adhesive.    no powder.      i use brava spray adhesive remover and niltac adhesive remover wipes and then i wash and shave using a good organic soap and a wet paper towel to remove any old adhesive.    im getting problem free 5 days and could go longer but hair growth becomes a problem if i try to go longer.    keep experimenting til you find what worls for you !   hope this helps.   


   
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