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dogtalkerer
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March 19, 2019 2:47 pm  

I think this video explains it pretty good. vegan, do you know of a material that DOES biodegrade in less than an hour? or less than 1 day? or even a couple of days?


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VeganOstomy
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March 19, 2019 5:41 pm  

That is a great video. Still doesn't change the fact that EcoVio liners are not ideal for "flushable" products. 

That said, it's not really about biodegrading in a short amount of time (that would be highly problematic), it's more about how easily it can break down when flushing. If it can't, then it shouldn't be flushed. 

Now, if these are "compostable" in regular outdoor dirt (i.e. when you need to use bury them while camping), I could see them being highly valuable for certain people. But EcoVio, even according to the video, takes a month under ideal conditions. These conditions are hardly met under "flushable liner" use. 

 

 

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VeganOstomy
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March 20, 2019 10:49 am  

Thanks for letting me know, Muffy. The flange design on the Sensura Mio must be different enough to make it hard to use liners.

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March 21, 2019 9:25 am  

Hi all...Eric, this has been a very interesting topic to read as you have been discussing this topic of the biodegradable liners. Thank you Eric, not just for this topic but for all of your videos and your time. I have learned so much and am so impressed with your efforts in all you have personally done for those of us with an ostomy or two. You are so kind and thoughtful.  Your videos are done to best of your knowledge and experiences with the products that you have tested.  I can not imagine, not having a hernia, yet testing the product as extensively as you have in so many things, right down to the testing of the liners. I have always used a one piece and wondered about break down of them in the landfill. This has been informative and I want you to know how very much I appreciate all of your work in everything you have done here for all of us. So, a great big thank you to you, and to your family for giving of your time to us who have needed you and did not know it until we found you.  You are a one of a kind and very good man to put this site together. Even after ten years of my having an ostomy, I have learned so very much through you. Bless your heat!

Linda


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July 28, 2019 4:38 pm  

My husband has started using Colo-Magic liners and they've failed the flushable claim. After multiple attempts to flush liners they reluctantly went down , so he stopped flushing them. I don't think they're actually biodegradable either since they float just like plastic bags. Now he's going to empty the liners as much as he can, then dispose of it in the garbage.
Very disappointing!


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VeganOstomy
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July 29, 2019 12:59 pm  
Posted by: @Sunita Thomas

I don't think they're actually biodegradable either since they float just like plastic bags.

Hi Sunita, they aren't meant to break down quickly, which is part of the problem with them. They should break down in weeks/months but only if given the right conditions. This, unfortunately, gives them too much time to clog things up. 

Removing the liner and disposing of it in the garbage is a reasonable compromise. If he like that method, consider getting something like a "Diaper Genie" which can be used to hold the soiled liners without worrying about smell. 

Good luck!

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VeganOstomy
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July 30, 2019 9:47 am  

Hi Muffy. Out of curiosity, what advantage do you get from emptying the liner vs. using a drainable ostomy bag? I would imagine there's more of an effort required to empty the liner and replace it, no?

Just your friendly neighborhood ostomate.

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dauniis
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August 20, 2019 2:12 am  

Thanks for the research Eric. I've heard about "flushable" wipe claims being false (or at least not flushable in real world circumstances which is basically the same thing :P ) so I was very interested to read this and see how pouch lines fared.


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