Pancaking: A Headache for Ostomates since the 1800’s (w/ video)

Ostomy Pancaking

I love pancakes, but I don’t like pancaking! In the world of ostomies, pancaking can be a frustrating, challenging and sometimes a messy ordeal. Pancaking applies mostly to colostomates, although some ileostomates with thick stool might experience this too.

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First, a quick definition:

“Pancaking” is a word that an ostomate might use to describe when their stoma output stays on the top part of the pouch and/or collects around the stoma.

Without anyplace for the stool to go (stubborn stool!), it often forces its way under the wafer or muscles through to push the pouch off. Obviously, nobody wants to deal with leaks in this way, so it’s important to identify the cause and correct the problem.

I’m my experience with thick ileostomy output, pancaking has only caused leaks when it happens overnight; when it happens during the day, I can usually intervene before things go south.

Here are a few possible causes and some things to try:


Thick Stool

There are a few ways of dealing with thick stool; I wrote an entire article about it HERE, but these tips are specific to help prevent pancaking.

Lubricate the inside of your pouch. This can be done using a lubricating gel or liquid designed specifically for ostomy pouches, or using DIY methods like olive oil or cooking spray. The idea is to coat the inside of your pouch so that stool can slide down to a happy place at the bottom of your pouch. Lubricants need to be reapplied whenever the pouch is emptied, but it’s important that you Lubricate up to the top of the pouch (if possible).

Coloplast Lubricating Deodorant
Coloplast Lubricating Deodorant

Drink more liquids. Adding more water or other fluids to your diet will help to soften stool. Some people might try beverages known to loosen output like prune, apple or grape juice; other options like coffee or even soda could create the same effect too.

Increase fiber intake, but focus on insoluble fiber. This shouldn’t be a problem if you’re eating a lot of plant foods, but increasing insoluble fiber will move things along and can prevent stool from becoming dry, hard and difficult to pass. You’d typically want to focus on whole grains, vegetables and produce with skins. Use caution with high-fiber intake if you’re fresh out of surgery.

Some ostomates are told to take laxatives by their doctor. I would personally avoid this option as laxatives can create other problems down the road. Check with your stoma nurse or doctor if you feel that laxatives are needed.


Check Your Filter

Believe it or not, some pouch filers work too well, and they remove air from the bag while creating a vacuum at the same time. If this is the case for you, cover the outer filter on your pouch using a sticker (they often come included with your pouches). Some brands, like Hollister, don’t include these stickers, so you’ll have to improvise and use tape or something similar.

If it turns out that your filter is being too aggressive, keep using the sticker, and periodically remove it when your pouch begins to fill with gas. If this is too much trouble, you might want to try other pouch systems to see if another style of filter weekends l works better.

You can also try blowing a bit of air into the pouch when you empty or change it; this bit of air will counter the vacuum effect and will help regardless if your pouch has a filter on it or not.


Stuff It!

I’ve heard of some ostomates putting a bit of wet tissue/toilet paper inside their pouch to prevent the pouch from being too flat. This method is similar to blowing air in your pouch, although it may not prevent the vacuum effect caused by a filter. The downside is that it’s more inconvenient to use this method.


Let’s Get Physical!

Sometimes you have to manually move pancaked stool down in order to avoid problems from developing. Don’t be afraid to push, shove and squeeze that stool down to the bottom of your pouch. This may be necessary if you’re wearing an ostomy wrap or tight-fitting clothes.


Additional Tips

  • If you’re covering your filter, uncover it at night so you don’t have problems with ballooning (when your pouch is too full of gas).
  • Rinse the inside of your pouch before changing it, as it’ll help remove any stool that might be stuck around your stoma.
  • Rinsing can also help to empty your pouch during regular toilet visits.
  • Some oil lubricants may reduce your wear time, so use a commercial ostomy lubricant to minimize that risk.
  • Experiment with different ostomy systems to see if another brand or style reduces pancaking for you. This may be necessary if the filter on your current pouch is too troublesome.

Question: What do you do to prevent or deal with pancaking?

116 thoughts on “Pancaking: A Headache for Ostomates since the 1800’s (w/ video)”

  1. Eric, would you talk a little about clingy sticky iliestomy output. Still dealing with it. You said you had it before. How you manage it. Wits end here. An still waiting for ostomy Nurse to call me. You think grape juice would help? Thanks. lia

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  2. Which bag is more recommended for high loose output? My stoma is flat and new. I was the queen of blow outs in my month long hospital and rehab stay. Nothing new to me for 3-5 blow outs in one day until one sticks. Using wafers with eakin rings along with paste. One and two piece bags I’ve tried. Can’t figure out the difference. I do like the filter bags for sure. My skin is very sensitive and I’ve dealt with erosion already. That was awful.
    One company sent me a huge supply of the MIO bags and they just look small compared to the other bags I’ve been using. I had called for samples only and they sent me a huge supply to charge my insurance with approx 60 of these bags that I’ve never tried. Should I send the smaller bags back and ask for samples like the original conversation? They included plenty of each product to be used in the monstrous box. Not the little trial is asked for.
    I’m just lost. I’ve been told I need a convex for leaks due to my ileostomy and liquid output.

    What seems to work for others here. I’m so confused and lost. …
    Thank you in advance, Jennifer

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    • Hi @jenniferfussell:disqus .

      I’d recomment taking a look at this article to help you better manage your loose output: https://www.veganostomy.ca/dealing-liquid-ostomy-output/

      When it comes to appliances, generally speaking it won’t matter if it’s a one or two piece, but you might do better with “extended wear" wafers. The barrier rings can help, but I’d try just the wafer on its own and move from there if you need to (sometimes the rings erode quickly, as you’ve experienced…. try different brands).

      Good luck!

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  3. My theory is that pancaking is caused by a design flaw in all bags and I have a couple of ideas of how to rectify it but don’t know who in the companies to reach out to with them.

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  4. I am a relatively new ostomate having had my surgery 6 weeks ago. I am using the Sensura Mio 2 piece bag with a convex wafer. I use the sticker and the deodorant gel and I still experience pancaking. I have used other brands (Hollister, Convatec), flat, convex. Changed my diet as much as I can at this point. Not sure what else to do. Any suggestions from experienced ostomates are welcome!

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    • Hi Wendy,

      I would imagine that’s pretty frustrating! When you put the sticker on the filter, do you blow a bit of air into the bag, or do you put some wet toilet paper into the bag? You need to make sure that there’s some air in there to separate the walls of the pouch, or else it’ll create a vacuum.

      Also, do you have an ileostomy or colostomy? How thick is your output and is it like that all the time? Do you ever experience less pancaking or is it all the time?

      Regards, Eric

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      • Eric,

        Thanks for your quick reply! I have a colostomy. I had my sigmoid colon removed and understand that my output should be fairly “solid"…but it isn’t. It is the consistency of whipped potato all the time. I have had the pancaking problem since day one. It has caused skin irritation and leaks. I don’t think I have worn a bag for more than 2 days, if I’m lucky. The output pancakes and pushes under the wafer even with an Eakin ring. The Mio 2 piece has been the best and longest lasting so far.

        I have tried blowing air into the bag but never tried the wet TP. I will give that a shot.

        Thanks,

        Wendy

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        • I’m surprised that you find the Mio works best for you; I experienced more pancaking with the Mio because of the large filter.

          But it often takes some experimentation to find a combination or technique that works for you.

          Wishing you all the best!

  5. Thanks for answering several questions I had about baby oil use, stuffing in some TP and using stool deodorant drops. You are a great help!

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