I, like you, have to have a tape border. If not things leak. The tape border seems to secure the base down helping it adhere to the skin and around the stoma by pushing things down, giving a better seal.

I found that hollisters tape boarders are strange in a sense the tape is only at the sides and not at the top or the bottom where it really needed. Makes no sense to me because the tape boarder should be all around the base not just the sides. 

Also cheaply made pouches are a deal breaker as well. You know, the ones that fall off an hour later. 

Filters are also a deal breaker becsuse i rinse my bag every empty.  

Posted by: @chelly

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I found that hollisters tape boarders are strange in a sense the tape is only at the sides and not at the top or the bottom where it really needed.

Unless something has changed in the last two years, all the Hollister appliances I've used had tape all around the borders. I recall that they had smaller strips for the release liner that had to be removed before applying the wafer, but the tape itself was always “full coverage”.

What model are you using?

And yeah, filters suck. They cause more problems than they are supposed to solve, so I try to get filter-free bags when possible, or just tape them right away.

I could not remember the exact bag so I did a search and I found it right away. I dont use these but a nurse put one on me years ago when I first got an ostomy and gave me a couple more to rake home. Im.attaching the Pic of the hollister pouch that I was saying is missing the tape boarder at the bottom and top.

I'm using a convatec active life convex  at the moment which has a great tape border.  I can also use the natura pouch with the convex moldable base plate that has a great tape border. I like the active life better though due to it being a one piece and having a clip on the end.  I cant seem to find any other pouches that actually stick well and both with tape boarders other than these 2 convatec pouches. 

What pouches are you currently wearing? What are you liking about them? 

@chelly Ok, in the photo I can see those white strips on the left and right sides. When I was using Hollister bags, there was a plastic liner, and then those white strips that both needed to be removed to expose the adhesive. They are there to help you handle the appliance without touching the adhesive directly. 

Many wafers don't have those extra release liners, which can sometimes be a challenge.

Posted by: @chelly

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What pouches are you currently wearing? What are you liking about them? 

🤭very inexpensive bags off Amazon under the Deraymi brand.

They are *not* perfect by any means, and I do run into issues sometimes. But since I developed a sensitivity to Hollister wafers, these have worked well at a fraction of the price.

The biggest concern is that a no-name brand like that can (and usually do) simply disappear, which would leave me stuck looking for something else. I don't think I could afford the $15+ dollar appliances if I was forced to go back, even with the ostomy grant money.

@veganostomy oh ok , I thought they were tape boarder on the sides. I had no clue and I could not understand why the top and bottom did not have them. At any rate those hollister bags did not hold up for me. They would leak under the flange. Anything that does not have tape boarder would always leak and then to have to use those tapes that you can put around the sides, we'll its just not the same as a built in tape boarder. 

I had forgotten that you have to pay out of pocket for your pouches. I'm happy to hear that you  have found some that are working out for you. I would be in some real trouble if mine were not covered.