I can’t use tissues as my house is old ,the plumbing is newer but they do plug my toilet

Posted by: Shazzon

but for some reason I cannot get them to work with the coloplast Sensura Mio click system which I really like but I want to use a liner .

What happens when you try? Does the ring not snap back into place or is something else happening? 

The same thing happens to me with a liner and the Sensura Mio. You have to work at it a very long time to line everything up so that the closure will work. In the end I mostly just give up. But I have had instances where I can make the liner work with the pouch closure. Sometimes it works but mostly it's hard to get things to snap into place.

I think this video explains it pretty good. vegan, do you know of a material that DOES biodegrade in less than an hour? or less than 1 day? or even a couple of days?

That is a great video. Still doesn't change the fact that EcoVio liners are not ideal for "flushable" products. 

That said, it's not really about biodegrading in a short amount of time (that would be highly problematic), it's more about how easily it can break down when flushing. If it can't, then it shouldn't be flushed. 

Now, if these are "compostable" in regular outdoor dirt (i.e. when you need to use bury them while camping), I could see them being highly valuable for certain people. But EcoVio, even according to the video, takes a month under ideal conditions. These conditions are hardly met under "flushable liner" use. 

Thanks for letting me know, Muffy. The flange design on the Sensura Mio must be different enough to make it hard to use liners.

Hi all...Eric, this has been a very interesting topic to read as you have been discussing this topic of the biodegradable liners. Thank you Eric, not just for this topic but for all of your videos and your time. I have learned so much and am so impressed with your efforts in all you have personally done for those of us with an ostomy or two. You are so kind and thoughtful.  Your videos are done to best of your knowledge and experiences with the products that you have tested.  I can not imagine, not having a hernia, yet testing the product as extensively as you have in so many things, right down to the testing of the liners. I have always used a one piece and wondered about break down of them in the landfill. This has been informative and I want you to know how very much I appreciate all of your work in everything you have done here for all of us. So, a great big thank you to you, and to your family for giving of your time to us who have needed you and did not know it until we found you.  You are a one of a kind and very good man to put this site together. Even after ten years of my having an ostomy, I have learned so very much through you. Bless your heat!

My husband has started using Colo-Magic liners and they've failed the flushable claim. After multiple attempts to flush liners they reluctantly went down , so he stopped flushing them. I don't think they're actually biodegradable either since they float just like plastic bags. Now he's going to empty the liners as much as he can, then dispose of it in the garbage.
Very disappointing!

Posted by: @Sunita Thomas

I don't think they're actually biodegradable either since they float just like plastic bags.

Hi Sunita, they aren't meant to break down quickly, which is part of the problem with them. They should break down in weeks/months but only if given the right conditions. This, unfortunately, gives them too much time to clog things up. 

Removing the liner and disposing of it in the garbage is a reasonable compromise. If he like that method, consider getting something like a "Diaper Genie" which can be used to hold the soiled liners without worrying about smell. 

Good luck!

For what it's worth, I was always hesitant to flush the liners because of our old house plumbing. So I also empty my liner before discarding, just to make less garbage. Depending on the consistency of my poop, I can often empty the liner while it's still in the pouch and reuse both easily, unless I happen to get debris on the edge of the liner (I use a 2 piece system).
Anyway, don't know if this helps or not.

Hi Muffy. Out of curiosity, what advantage do you get from emptying the liner vs. using a drainable ostomy bag? I would imagine there's more of an effort required to empty the liner and replace it, no?

I have tried liners and I use attivia I find they are the best but after reading your article.i no longer flush them I put them in compost able dog poop bags and throw them in the outside can and if It is in the middle of the night I use the Attiva black ziplock and keep it safely tucked away until the next day .This works well for me .I have a very thick output I use closed bags and then line them with the flushable change them and it’s much easier for me .

@shazzon Thanks for sharing that! I'm glad they work for you :)

Tissues plug my toilet so I fing tp better

The ring won’t snap into place but with the new concave flange they work well

where can i purchase these Attiva bags?

Hey Shannon, it depends on where you live.

In Canada, you can purchase them in quite a few places (Canmeddirect, innergood, etc.) In the US, I believe Parthenon sells them, but I'm sure thee are quite a few more places.

The plumber's in the bathroom now. The verdict's not in, but I have a horrible feeling that it's the liners. Flushing them for a little bit more than a year.

Oh, oh! Let us know what the verdict was ??

So far, not looking good. I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

Plumber used a 70- foot snake, couldn't clear it. There's talk of breaking open the floor!

I don't know what the hell I was thinking. I'm sure I had even read your article and forgot it. When I first started using them, I was throwing them away. A bit muddled after radiation-chemo.

I haven't mentioned this possibility because:
1) my husband will never let me forget this — he's in his 70s, cantankerous, I'll leave it at that
2) pathologically cheap semi-slumlord never fixes anything we ask to have repaired (e.g., part garage ceiling fell, asbestos everywhere, didn't care about our health or her repairman's), despite us being on time or early with rent and no trouble for years

I always fess up when I'm wrong. Not this time.